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lebbeus woods and Piranesi
db     2005.04.17 14:06

the similarity is in the visual representation (and style of representation) of improbable and imagined spaces. why is that so outside of our consideration? up until something is built it is only representation. its success as a building that needs funding and client-support requires such representation. let's not overlook the power of the image here -- which Piranesi and Woods are both masters of though with little built in spite of it. Is there MORE there also, sure. But let's not overlook one thing in favor of another. Let's do it ALL.

Rita, I am now convinced of your complete authority and dominance in the field of Piranesi studies even without knowing what depths you have traversed in this regard. Please do tell us exactly what we should ALL think and say about Piranesi and let's be done with it.



lebbeus woods and Piranesi
Rita Novel     2005.04.17 14:47

Piranesi did a whole lot more than visually represent "improbable and imagined" spaces. Piranesi was primarily an ur-archaeologist, and his hands-on understanding of "history" manifests an unprecedented delineation of how history coalesces with (architectural) design. Even Piranesi's personal design history manifests a coalescence, e.g., Prima Parti di Architetture e Prospettive through the Carceri through the Osservazioni sopra la Lettre de M. Mariette through the Diverse Maniere d'Adornare i Cammini through the Vasi, Candelabri, Cippi. Is that what Lebbeus Woods does?

My authority and dominance is in the field of Piranesi's Ichnographia Campus Martius, but why should I tell you all I know for free?

Hey Janosh, remember when you responded here at archinect on 22 January 2003 with:
Xavier Costa, in a class he taught at the AA while I was there, related it [Ichnographia Campus Martius] to museological strategies/memory aids. Not sure that this is what you are asking, and I don't know if he ever published such a thing.

Could it be that Costa received his information from Marcel Baumgartner's "Topographie als Medium der Erinnerung in Piranesi's 'Campo Marzio dell' Antica Roma'"? published in 2000? Baumgartner at least admits/footnotes his knowledge of the Encyclopedia Ichnographica as published at quondam.com from 1 July 1998 to 20 March 2000.





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