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...code variance plus something under the table. Three left turns. Happy apples.


2015.03.04 09:45
2 March
or the h-app-y App-les that links directly to the last post within a news item ahem
Picasso's Hut (in German) not Pizza Hut (in Amemcanish)
"We wish to achieve a type of signification beyond which there can be no further reading or interpretation. Interpretation, we insist, must be made to stop somewhere. And where more absolutely and appropriately than in an act of what the police call "positive identification"? For the individual who can be shown to be the "key" to the image, and thus the "meaning" of the image, has the kind of singularity one is looking for. Like his name, his meaning stops within the boundaries of identity." --RK, ITNOP

2015.03.04 09:58
Vienna plan world's tallest wooden skyscraper

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"Someone left the cake out in the rain."
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to the rescue.


2015.03.04 11:41
2 March
Just heard on the radio: "The 'golden fleece' was actually a bathroom rug."


2015.03.06 18:33
Orange County legislators fail to save Paul Rudolph's Government Center
I'm not so sure that aesthetics has much to do with the fate of this building. It turned out to be a huge maintenance problem. And, judging by the several interior views I've seen and the plans of the interior overall, it doesn't look like a particularly pleasant place to work. Other than that, the building's exterior 'look' probably had broad appeal, due mainly to its geometric playfulness.


2015.03.08 11:26
The Battle of the Ancients and the Moderns (sequel #______ )
So what's the battle?
Saying that "we find modernism's inception in the 14th century, or at least sometime during the Enlightenment" is proof of what (victory) exactly?
Perhaps the birth and rise of subjectivity is the real origin of the modern. Or, put better, true modernism is the culmination, or apotheosis even, of the triumph of subjectivity over objectivity.


2015.03.08 12:23
The Battle of the Ancients and the Moderns (sequel #______ )
But the Anasazi cliff ruins had no mechanized plumbing, no electricity, no mechanized heating. Surely, what is generally known as 'modern' architecture today does not exist without advanced technology.


2015.03.08 12:45
The Battle of the Ancients and the Moderns (sequel #______ )
So what are the advanced technologies that the Great Pyramids, Machu Pichu, Ise, Chichen Itza, Pont du Gard, the Acropolis would not exist without?


2015.03.08 13:27
The Battle of the Ancients and the Moderns (sequel #______ )
But the Anasazi cliff ruins had no mechanized plumbing, no electricity, no mechanized heating. Surely, what is generally known as 'modern' architecture today does not exist without advanced technology [as mentioned above: mechanized plumbing, electricity, mechanized heating].
So what are the advanced technologies that have not been lost that the Great Pyramids, Machu Pichu, Ise, Chichen Itza, Pont du Gard, the Acropolis would not exist without?
Note that "Some of which have been lost." is a euphemism for "We don't know anymore how they actually did it."
'Modern' architecture, as it is generally known today, exists, obviously, without lost technologies.
Perhaps a more appropriate way to distinguish architectures is to categorize them via the technologies that the existence of the varying architectures are dependent upon.

2015.03.08 14:51
The Battle of the Ancients and the Moderns (sequel #______ )
Volunteer, "style' is the operative word of your above statement. Can you supply some pictorial examples of these ski and hiking huts? Can these huts perhaps be modern in style but not necessarily modern in design?


2015.03.08 16:34
The Battle of the Ancients and the Moderns (sequel #______ )
"Parametricism--The Parametric Paradigm and the Formation of a New Style" entitles the eleventh chapter of Patrik Schumacher's The Autopoiesis of Architecture: A New Agenda for Architecture, vol. 2 (2012).


2015.03.08 16:38
The Battle of the Ancients and the Moderns (sequel #______ )
Volunteer, so the existence of ultramodern shelters in remote areas is usually dependent on the advanced technology of helicopters?


2015.03.08 16:55
Frank Gehry's Winton Guest House to be up for sale on May 19 in Chicago
"museification"


2015.03.08 17:03
The Battle of the Ancients and the Moderns (sequel #______ )
No, I didn't ask for examples of "modern architecture without electricity, running water, and mechanical heating systems." You offered: "there are "modern" style backcountry ski and hiking huts in Colorado and the Great Smoky Mountains that don't have plumbing or electricity and the heating is by fireplace yet they are unmistakably modern in design," to which I replied: " 'style' is the operative word of your above statement. Can you supply some pictorial examples of these ski and hiking huts? Can these huts perhaps be modern in style but not necessarily modern in design?"
My interest is in "perhaps a more appropriate way to distinguish architectures is to categorize them via the technologies that the existence of the varying architectures are dependent upon." It seems that "the existence of ultramodern shelters in remote areas is [indeed] usually dependent on the advanced technology of helicopter."


2015.03.08 18:42
The Battle of the Ancients and the Moderns (sequel #______ )
So you're simply saying that the Anasazi and the Inca were superior moderns and those from the Bauhaus and their followers were inferior moderns, and where exactly does that supposition get us?
And I'd still like to see some pictorial examples of those ski and hiking huts, to see whether they are modern in style but not necessarily modern in design.


2015.03.08 18:54
The Battle of the Ancients and the Moderns (sequel #______ )
I guess so. The technology advances, but the architects get worse. Does that about sum it up?


2015.03.08 19:13
Architect proposes turning dead humans into compost
I think it's more a fear of finality. Like even your statement, Donna, that death is some different state of being (even though there is no real evidence that death is some different state of being) tries to mask the fact that all the real evidence shows that one dies and that's it. Life simply ends.
Does the world really need human compost? Perhaps it will more readily spread some diseases. Who knows?


2015.03.08 19:52
The Battle of the Ancients and the Moderns (sequel #______ )
Maybe it's just me, but those buildings don't look particularly modern in style or design.
I'm reminded of Le Corbusier's Mattias Errázuris house (1929-1930) and it's use of 'traditional' construction. Is the Mattias Errázuris house an example of modern design in 'traditional' style? Or, would it be more correct to say modern design in vernacular style?
Just to note, the Mattias Errázuris house does have 'modern' bathrooms and a mechanized kitchen.


2015.03.08 21:01
Architect proposes turning dead humans into compost
From the article: "Nobody yet knows exactly what will happen to human bodies in this process."
I have a feeling that something similar was tried by humans several thousand years ago, and the results turned out to be more negative than positive.


2015.03.09 10:33
The Battle of the Ancients and the Moderns (sequel #______ )
JLC-1, it's not so obvious because I have no idea whether you mean that Gehry and Hadid are "expressed physicality" and Joy and Kundig are "dressed appearance" or vice versa. Also, without much of a stretch, "expressed physicality" and "dressed appearance" can even be imagined as manifest in the same thing. Like "expressed physicality" could be simultaneous baroque and realist, and "dressed appearance" can be simultaneous baroque and realist.
It would be interesting to see which technologies the architectures of Gehry, Hadid, Joy and Kundig share, and which technologies make their respective architectures distinct.

2015.03.09 11:02
The Battle of the Ancients and the Moderns (sequel #______ )
JLC-1, just clarify for me. I'm honestly not sure what you mean because there is ambiguity, for example, what exactly does "dressed appearance" mean? It's already evident that you're the one playing with words.
And I never said technologies make the architecture. Architecture employs technologies, especially to realize intentions.


2015.03.09 11:36
The Battle of the Ancients and the Moderns (sequel #______ )
I have no idea why you say I'm trying to put "classicism" and "modernism" in black and white.
You say, "I really believe what makes a difference is whether you have to (or you want to) "ornate" or "compose" a solution to make it work, rather than put the emphasis in space, light and materials without ornate and without the canons of classical composition." This is the first time I'm reading this, so I definitely never said anything for or against it. As to the rest, it's all conjecture at best.
A strong case could be made that social evolution follows technologies. In fact, that's a sub-theme of Downton Abbey, even.


2015.03.09 14:49
Orange County legislators fail to save Paul Rudolph's Government Center
It's David Schwarz, by the way. The best of the office's output is the straight-on "classical" work. The modern and post-modern styled works are mediocre. I admit to being surprised as to the size and extent of the "classical" work, and it seems fitting for this work to be for larger institutions.
Although the "classical" work is the best of the office's output, it is still just average when compared to the vast amount of very good classical architecture to learn from. My main critique of the American classical architecture designed today is it's timid, textbook style.


2015.03.09 15:03
Orange County legislators fail to save Paul Rudolph's Government Center
Albeit "forward the discipline" is not a term I used, I'll repeat what I just wrote:
Although the "classical" work is the best of the office's output, it is still just average when compared to the vast amount of very good classical architecture to learn from. My main critique of the American classical architecture designed today is it's timid, textbook style.
The fact that "classical" architectural design has elaborately evolved over the years from 500BC to the nineteenth century is not at all evident in the (American) classical architecture being built and designed today. The ongoing innovation that classical design once was is simply absent now.


2015.03.09 15:07
Orange County legislators fail to save Paul Rudolph's Government Center
Let me adjust the dates of classical architecture's evolution: c.500BC to the first half of the 20th century (to include Cret, Speer, and Stalinist Architecture).


2015.03.09 17:29
Orange County legislators fail to save Paul Rudolph's Government Center
Seems that an actual criticism is being conveniently ignored.
Albeit "forward the discipline" is not a term I used, I'll repeat what I just wrote:
Although the "classical" work is the best of [David Schwarz's] office's output, it is still just average when compared to the vast amount of very good classical architecture to learn from. My main critique of the American classical architecture designed today is it's timid textbook style.
The fact that "classical" architectural design has elaborately evolved over the years from 500BC to the first half of the 20th century is not at all evident in the (American) classical architecture being built and designed today. The ongoing innovation that classical design once was is simply absent now.
If you want today's "classical" architecture to be professionally respected, you need to step up the game. Otherwise, why should what is really just average architectural design be getting high praise?


2015.03.09 17:49
Take a peek at Tom Wiscombe's "underground" Old Bank District Museum scheme for L.A.

I like the notion of extravagantly exploiting the existing roof-scape. Makes me wonder if that's where urban design should start putting more of its focus--designing a new layer on top of the existing layer. Installation by cargo helicopter all over the place.

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